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1. brent
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   hallelujah & a dream come true, except that all your favourite birds oceans and forests will be stuffed decades before the stoats are. That is unless we all do our bit to secure a safe climate future treaty in Copenhagen this December. A strong climate treaty would be such a fine Christmas present for the planet!

   Best get on board with the Honourable Nick Smith's whirlwind nation wide tour next week if you fancy having your say on the most urgent and important wildlife conservation issue in New Zealand. Perhaps while you're there you can suggest he do the honourable thing, and use science instead of public feeling to set the target.

   http://www.climatechange.govt.nz/survey/x09nz2020register.htm has all the meeting dates and places - there is one in a town near you.

   and visit www.350.org.nz while you're at it - a connection to the heart of the climate campaign

   also - check out the best lil' film ever about why this meeting is actually the single most important wildlife conservation issue facing NZ today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4kn90QQ0jg

   and finally - how do you tell the difference between a stoat and a weasel? One's weasily recognised, and the other is stoataly different.

   Posted 2 years ago #

2. ruby
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   Eye catching title that brent stoatally foxed

   Posted 2 years ago #

3. Kim
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   According to the Herald, Bono isn't such a greenie after all - someone measured his carbon footprint, and apparently his latest tour will send over 65,000 tonnes of CO2 into our skies. That's the equivalent amount of carbon emitted to send him and his band mates to Mars and back.

   It would make a great map wouldn't it? I wonder which celebs/politicians would have made it to Pluto. I'm sure some of them could have lapped our solar system a few times over...

   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/environment/news/headlines.cfm?c_id=39

   Posted 2 years ago #

4. brent
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   yeah! someone else in this room who is thinking about climate!!

   good point regards the carbon footprints of the uber celebs. I tend to think about how the carbon footprint is being used, rather than the size. Like at the moment, Obama has a shockingly huge cabon footprint, but wields a pen that with one stroke could make a hugely important contribution to earth being livable for kokako and co in say 100 years time. So I'm quite happy for Obama to hop on as many planes as needed to better create a political consensus for a safe climate, and to make it as soon and as strong as possible.

   Onto U2. With celebs in general, it is much harder to make the exact connection between what they are doing, and changes in things that matter, like how much carbon we'll be crapping into our own nest in 2020. But the idea is the same as above, and if U2 is out and about promoting a societal context that is favourable to political decisions that will create a safe climate future, then once again go for broke and hop on as many planes as it takes. I'm no expert on U2's views and impacts on environmental matters, but I am willing to extend the benefit of the doubt to just about anyone who is using their carbon footprint in this way.

   For a thoughtful read on this whole area of voluntary simplicity (and the urgent need to go beyond it) look at the latest from writer and thinker Derrick Jensen http://www.orionmagazine.org/index.php/articles/article/4801/

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5. ruby
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   I agree with what you say about Obama Brent,i think he will bring about a lot of good great changes to the usa and the world.
   but bono and u2 are only 0n the green bandwagon and every other hip bandwagon to sell more cds .
   along with others in the music industry they all talk green and save the world etc but when they start putting some of there vast wealth behind the fancie talking then we can belive them.

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6. Helen
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   Bono is just somehow deeply annoying. Almost as annoying as Bob Geldof.

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7. Kim
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   Interesting article - from my limited knowledge of human psychology, people like to feel like they are in control, and saying no to plastic bags and having short showers, gives them this sense of control and empowerment. I think the majority of NZders have little knowledge of the political tools available to them and don't feel they have the time to fully engage in utilizing them, so by doing these small things, they feel like they are doing their 'bit'.

   On another topic, I was interested to hear that solid energy is looking into culling goats in return for carbon credits - http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/stories/2009/07/24/1245bc78c03c

   Is this being done with other pest species, eg. possums, and if so is an organisation like forest and bird looking at accruing carbon credits?

   Posted 2 years ago #

8. auckland anne
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   As far as I'm able to explain it, Kim, F&B recognises and lobbies about the amount of carbon sequestration achieved by native forests and native vegetation, and this is given as another reason for reducing the pests that damage these forests and plants. I'm not sure if F&B is quantifying this in any way, like by working out the carbon credits it equates to. I hope that goes some way, (probably not a long way though!), to start trying to answer your question. It'd be good if anyone else who knows more and better about how to explain it could speak to this issue.

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